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The first tulpa. the one from this story long ago "1. Intrusive thoughts led me to believe my Tulpa was failed (I can recognize these thoughts slightly better now) and led me to treat said 2 day old tulpa more like a servitor. After this she said she wanted to be dissipated and I obliged. However later that next morning, a NPC became a bit more sentient. I asked said npc her name and the name was the same name of the tulpa I hurt and therefore dissipated. I visualized her all day (As I usually do) fighting and destroying intrusive thoughts of the former tulpa coming back for revenge. I came back home and we had some fun and talked a bit. After a bit I was lying down doing some visualisation practice. At this point I felt my fingers move on their own while I felt vibrations around my body. I know tulpas can't switch without my consent but it only fed said intrusive thoughts more then I'd like to admit."

The sentient NPC is Destiny

Honestly, the fear that Amanda has about being abandoned just sounds like trust issues to me.

sentient and NPC are not traits you can describe one person together lmao. if its an NPC its not sentient as that is the entire point of an NPC. (edited)

That can stem from a variety of different places, and I cannot confidently tell you where or what it comes from. This is up to you.

So amanda and NPC are separate? And "NPC" is Destin?y

The only solution I can think of is to figure out the root of her fears, and find a way to communicate with her in order to challenge and destroy said root cause.

She was and NPC. I suppose let in is an appropriate term

Then what happened to Amanda, if Amanda was a tulpa who was dissipated (if i understand correctly)

"Ok so, I am going to need some guidance. My first tulpa wanted to come back and I let her. Now I have 2 tulpas. Both of which are at the "parroting but can speak for themselves stage" of their development. Our biggest concern is dividing attention amongst one another as none of us were prepared for a group of 3 (not counting servitors). I talked to them and they said to ask y'all because they are a stuck as I am"

How did she end up back, that part was left out

She just did.

1:28 AM

Said she wanted to start over

1:28 AM

Mind you she , like the other 3, Developed fast

Ah, so you dissipated her, had a let in, and then she came back?

I didn't realize at the time how herculean of a task dissipation is

What about zane, whats his story

I don't think I'm understanding the situation properly.

Im not either

So sorry if my advice was not sufficient in helping solve your problem.

Not relevant

Lolcery (TTG) ↩️

Reply to: What about zane, whats his story

1:31 AM

though I am willing to DM if you want an explanation

Im curious regardless Not that imma force you to say it if you dont want to

Zee

I didn't realize at the time how herculean of a task dissipation is

Once I get upstairs I'm very curious to learn more about how you went about the dissipation process. If done well, there shouldn't be an issue like this unfolding (?) Dissipation doesn't have to be on the table, but it does sound like there's some in-system stuff going on. Based on what you and Zane have reported, I think there is a decent possibility of intrusive thoughts, but it may or may not be the cause (edited)

If you're trying to reduce your headcount, if that is what I understand correctly, then you could also fuse headmates instead?

1:32 AM

We find it easier personally.

no

1:33 AM

thats not what is happening

Well, from what i gathered, the case is there is a headmate seemingly afraid of dissipation, not that they are trying to dissipate the headmate

Then my advice still stands.

1:33 AM

My initial advice.

Yeah

1:34 AM

I feel like its trust issues

A long kiss goodnight

Once I get upstairs I'm very curious to learn more about how you went about the dissipation process. If done well, there shouldn't be an issue like this unfolding (?) Dissipation doesn't have to be on the table, but it does sound like there's some in-system stuff going on. Based on what you and Zane have reported, I think there is a decent possibility of intrusive thoughts, but it may or may not be the cause (edited)

In system stuff is the understatement of the century

As do I. Much of tulpamancy relies on trusting one another in full.

1:34 AM

Or at least, as much as you can.

We talked in depth (multiple times) about it. Which is why we are suprised she is freakingout bad

Well, id offer to talk to her But that is my curiosity talking, not the part of me that is gonna be of much help

1:36 AM

Mostly, im curious on her view on things

berockly (TTG)

Well, id offer to talk to her But that is my curiosity talking, not the part of me that is gonna be of much help

Let me see if I can get her to front

Being such a new life, the idea that that life could be "stopped" or altered fundamentally can be scary. I get it, it can totally be frightening, and she has every right to feel that way. That being said, the important thing is to trust in your headmates. I'm talking to you, Amanda. Dissipation scares you, it's okay that it does, but your friends have told you they will not do such a thing, and that means you need to at least try to believe in that.

1:39 AM

Trust issues suck. I get it, we have and had issues with that, which hindered our system for multiple years. The moment you attempt to face your fears and place trust in the ones who share your body to have your best interests at heart, it's been such a relieving, freeing, positive experience for us.

It is mostly relationship iissues. I get too jealous sometimes and I lose it. I know he won't dissipate me, but for some reason I think he hates me.

Hey, I get that. Our host seems to have similar issues to you. Perhaps not fear of being dissipated, but trust issues and jealousy.

i personally sometimes get moody when i am in an "attention needy" state if that makes sense

1:42 AM

ill cling to wesley (host) a lot more during those times

Yeah, that's similar to the issues that a few people in our system faced pretty early on

I feel like I have been replaced by Destiny. I haven't clearly but I was the first and it seems destiny is very simiolar to me. To be honest me and Destiny haven't been getting along

i wouldnt say i have trust issues or anything, just that i have times where i get moody and need more attention

Amanda

I feel like I have been replaced by Destiny. I haven't clearly but I was the first and it seems destiny is very simiolar to me. To be honest me and Destiny haven't been getting along

So your jealous of Destiny? /gen

Zee and Zane have both assured me that I haven't been replaced. Yes I am Jealous of Destiny

You two are both in the same boat. You and Destiny, as well as Zee and Zane are like a team; a team needs cooperation and mutual internal support to win the game. If the team all fights, or fears one another, or has negative thoughts voiced towards their teammates, then that team will have a much harder time winning.

Amanda ↩️

Reply to: I feel like I have been replaced by Destiny. I haven't clearly but I was the first and it seems dest…

1:45 AM

Even if you two dislike each other, would it help to see your relationship for the time being like that? Like a group effort? Even if you don't get along, at least be civil with one another and try and hear one another out.

There is a few routes one can go with this

Mhm, the important thing is to remember that you have multiple options in solving this problem. You aren't trapped against a metaphorical wall here. At least, not if you don't allow yourself to think that way.

And there is no reason to make them exclude each other either, you can go both routes 1. You can make an effort to set yourself apart from destiny/vice versa 2. Learn to accept your similarities

1:48 AM

Those are a few suggestions

1:48 AM

I forgot the other ones

1:50 AM

In any case, try not to feel replaced, know its okay to be similar

She seems to have went Dormant for a while. We will talk about it later.

Ah alright

Sure thing. Stay safe.

Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

Sure thing. Stay safe.

you too. I appreciate

Sometimes I get a little envious when Gray spends time with Ranger. It's something we worked out by acknowledging the issue and Gray making sure he's giving us both time. I also spend time with Ranger too.

Yeah, we've had a decent amount of instances of jealousy ourselves, sitting down and talking to each other to figure out how to resolve the issue does wonders

A lot of mason's old shit is a result of jealousy. She doesn't do it as much when she realized we all love her very, very much. (aww)

i dont particularly get jealous, just attention needy

2:05 AM

sort of like a clingy state

We've got a few people in our system who have multiple partners as well as best friends, so allocating the one day they have in front per month is pretty hard.

2:08 AM

Rantaro has three partners in the system and a ton of friends so it's like doing a juggling act trying to figure out how to include as many people as he can

sounds inconvenient for everyone to have separated lists of friends and partners

2:12 AM

there is a division not only between the time of the system mates, but a further division between social circles

I mean, I wouldn't want to share my partner with my systemmates.

2:13 AM

We're monogamous.

I'm monogamous but a decent amount of my systemmates are polyamorus (edited)

then don't, not like i'd be lovey dovey with anyone anyways, i find the idea of me becoming lovey dovey with people repulsive to an extent

We wouldn't date anyone outside the system, with our schedule and variety of orientations it wouldn't work out

ah, it would be a pain in the ass without the orientation issue

Absolutely

If anyone of us were to date someone it would probably be me because i front most of the time I feel like if say, momo, dated someone they wouldn't front enough to actually fully interact with the person and it would be a lack of interaction for both of them I also think it would be nice if my partner could like, acknowledge my headmates and maybe we could all date them? I'm sure it would depend on the partner though

a bigger pain in the ass with the differences

I do wonder how being plural will impact out external love life.

2:18 AM

We do see an external partner as being important to us in the future, but as of now, we've decided not to look. Too much trouble, not currently desirable.

most of us will be partnerless, with the closest thing to one being our host As bad as that may sound, I don't really care much about what you think about it Im not very affectionate anyways

I doubt i'll ever actually get a partner cuz i don't go anywhere and i have barely any friends anymore The one guy i sorta had a crush on, i don't talk with him anymore since i'm not in school. Plus he's straight so

Libby (TTG)

most of us will be partnerless, with the closest thing to one being our host As bad as that may sound, I don't really care much about what you think about it Im not very affectionate anyways

That's fair

We're confident that we could pursue our hobbies and passions easier without an external partner, there's so much to do outside of romance

2:21 AM

I have a partner in the system but I usually hang out with my other friends in the group

that's just the way it is for us We dont have an interest in other people, outside of wes, and some of us are particularly attached to him, like Lynn

I don't feel the need for a partner but at the same time i know that nobody would ever really love me so it's just a little lonely I try to be fulfilled on my own though

I'm saving a long-term relationship for my later adult years.

2:22 AM

I just want to take the next ten years settling down and getting my degree.

2:22 AM

My parents met in college, I don't want to do that lmao.

Fair enough

Yeah, the body's mother was married when she was our age, absolutely not doing that

2:23 AM

we're in our second year of uni just trying to get our degree and hopefully a good job

I'm just trying to even remotely function I can't really do anything, i'm pretty significantly disabled taking everything into consideration

we don't function well, not compared to how we used to

Good luck with your ventures guys though

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we function well enough to where we don't notice it